A friend tried for over a year to get me to play Haven. I tried briefly in 1.0 But was simply overwhelmed by how different the game was compared to what I was used to. I tried again in the early stages of 2.0, and while there was a learning curve for me, I kept with it and learned. It was worth the effort to me. The admin staff care deeply about the game, and do their best to make the players time there enjoyable. Discordance is helpful when issues arise, as is Daed. Daed himself truly helps create an environment rich in story, putting a lot of time and effort into making and playing not only lore based characters, but the ones that go bump in the night to provide rp opportunities as well. Every game has players who try to ruin it for everyone, naysayers who don't get their way. I can honestly say, not everything has gone my way, yet, majority of the player base makes it worthwhile. I highly encourage others who value deep rp and scary themes to try Haven.