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Hello, my name is Zach, and I'm a beginner coder. I currently build and am getting coding lessons on caerlon, which by the way, is the most awesome mud out there. But I need a port to code on, and money is currently extremely tight for my parents. So, I was hoping someone could lend me a port, and even let me help you out coding wise. I'm not -too- bad at it :p. But, I am just a rookie atm. If you can lend me a port to build on, and offer any help at all, contact me at
Buzzer2u2000@yahoo.com

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While I would agree coding with an existing team is good, probably better than doing it on your own in this situation, I'm curious why you can't download a codebase and just run it at home?

You do not need a port to code on, all you need to do is download and install Andlinux and you can code on your own computer from within windows.

I don't know if you are looking for a specific mud server to run or not. If you are looking to code and run your mud on Windows, the following links may be useful: WindowsMudServers, WindowsTools, MudPortsProject.

I'd really rather build with a team, but if no one is willing to work with me, then I guess I can download a Diku version or something, and run it off windows. I'm a joy to work with though :p....
hehe, thanks!

Bayne...

I hear you Bayne, but if you'll take a word of advice, collaboration and teamwork can be fickle and have stops and starts. It's not that working on your own won't have starts and stops too, but you have far more control and ability to set a steady pace of coding and reading other people's code. A steady pace is the foundation in doing some fun stuff with muds in my opinion. So, don't delay, download some code :D.

Well i really don't know what Bayne is really asking for which leaves me very confused.

I currently build and am getting coding lessons on caerlon,

So why have they not provided you with the tools you require and why are you then looking for a team of your own?

I'd really rather build with a team, but if no one is willing to work with me,

Ummm i would have thought the people at caerlon were more than willing to work with you as you say you currently work there.

I also do not understand the preoccupation you have with needing shell access on a server to code. I could offer to teach you to code on my game, but you will never have shell access to the server, thats just a given, you also do not need it, i do not even need access to my own server to code.

I tell all my prospective staffers the same thing, you want to code, well OK, you need Linux at home and svn to access the code. Andlinux is as simple as installing your favorite mud client, download it, click on the auto installer and follow the prompts and you then have a Linux server in windows, install subversion and you have access to the game code. Its really that simple.

You do not need server access to code, you only need access to the development tools on your own computer, Gcc, Gdb, Svn/Cvs, Kdevelop/Eclipse or some other editor.

So what are you trying to do here, start a project, join a project, get assistance with working on caerlon, because its really hard to help when your saying many different things.

I tell all my prospective staffers the same thing, you want to code, well OK, you need Linux at home and svn to access the code. Andlinux is as simple as installing your favorite mud client, download it, click on the auto installer and follow the prompts and you then have a Linux server in windows, install subversion and you have access to the game code. Its really that simple.

It's not really that simple. If you've never installed linux before it can be overwhelming - especially considering the fact that the OS is so configurable. The vast number of options leaves new people scratching their head and saying, huh?

I also do not understand the preoccupation you have with needing shell access on a server to code. I could offer to teach you to code on my game, but you will never have shell access to the server, thats just a given, you also do not need it, i do not even need access to my own server to code.

He is new, give him a break - he probably doesn't know WHAT he needs so he heard something and is just parroting it. Rather than belittling the guy since he obviously is starting out (we all were once, remember?), maybe it would help the community (and not just your ego) to give him some pointers or guidance. That's all the guy is asking for.

It's not really that simple. If you've never installed linux before it can be overwhelming - especially considering the fact that the OS is so configurable. The vast number of options leaves new people scratching their head and saying, huh?

Actually Andlinux is as simple to install as any other windows software, there are no huge configurations and unknown options. It is just download the exe installer, click and install.

yeah, lol, that's pretty much right right there. I heard you needed shell access to directly input code into the mud. Not sure really how it works. But I just really want to code with a few people, and be able to ask them questions in real time instead of emailing.
The Caerlon crew would let me code with them, but they said they have enough coders, and not enough accounts in the shell, which, leads me to believe you need shell to be able to code a mud, I guess...
But yeah, the guy that's teaching me is really great, he just doesn't have all that much time, if anyone else would be willing to teach me, that'd be great. I'm currently going door to door to sell candy to get money for whatever programs I may need to buy for it. I really appreciate the replies and understandingness of you guys :p. Thanks lots!
Bayne

You typically need shell access to run a MUD, or to code
things 'directly' into the MUD. You can run a local copy of
the MUD, make changes, and send in said changes and have
them added without having shell access. You can also commit
changes without having shell access if the MUD in question
uses a version control system (frankly in this day and age
I think all MUDs should use a version control system). Also
I have no clue whose teaching you, but I'm pretty sure most
people think their "teachers" are great when they're
learning. They of course aren't always actually great, they
just seem that way from the perspective of a newbie.

It's not really that simple. If you've never installed linux before it can be overwhelming - especially considering the fact that the OS is so configurable. The vast number of options leaves new people scratching their head and saying, huh?

Such was true years ago, but some distro's are as easy, or easier, to install than windows. Ubuntu is a pretty much monkey proof install, unless you've got some really odd hardware.