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1. Coding a mud with Java Tue Jun 22, 2004 [10:08 PM]
twooutgreg
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Are any of you familiar with using Java as a code base?


2. RE: Coding a mud with Java Wed Jun 23, 2004 [2:12 AM]
Kastagaar
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Yes.
There are two ways of constructing software: to make it so simple that there are obviously no errors, and to make it so complex that there are no obvious errors.


3. RE: Coding a mud with Java Wed Jun 23, 2004 [3:04 AM]
Tyche
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No, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
The Sourcery - http://sourcery.dyndns.org
TeensyMud - http://teensymud.kicks-ass.org
"A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven."


4. RE: Coding a mud with Java Wed Jun 23, 2004 [3:31 AM]
fmike
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http://pain.sf.net :)


5. RE: Coding a mud with Java Wed Jun 23, 2004 [4:05 AM]
guinn_uk
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Wow, a coding question I can answer.

No, I'm not familiar. I hear Tyche isn't either, but Kastagaar apparently is.

Glad to help


6. RE: Coding a mud with Java Wed Jun 23, 2004 [8:37 AM]
sm007h
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So now that you can finally answer a coding question, does this mean you will hang out in the coders forum more?
Shaken and stirred, brain damaged as a result.


7. RE: Coding a mud with Java Wed Jun 23, 2004 [9:43 AM]
KrayzieK
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As this one guy used to say, Java is a faster way, to program a slower MUD :).


8. RE: Coding a mud with Java Wed Jun 23, 2004 [11:21 AM]
irwinr12
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Not true, Java MUDs run just as fast as muds written in C or C++. Startup time is a little slower, but at runtime there is no noticeable difference what-so-ever.

-Jeremy, who's Java MUD has an SQL backend, and still runs faster than greased lightning.

I've seen cases where Java outran C in benchmarks. The current Java runtime engines usually compile the bytecodes to native at runtime using the Just-in-Time (JiT) compiler.


9. RE: Coding a mud with Java Wed Jun 23, 2004 [12:46 PM]
KrayzieK
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^^ was just kiddin' around, hence the smiley face but....

Could run 2x faster or 2x slower depending on what you are doing and how you do it. There is advantages/disadvantages to both.


10. RE: Coding a mud with Java Tue Jul 6, 2004 [12:34 PM]
Tulath
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Heh. I believe he's referring to my beast, which runs CoffeeMUD with M$ SQL 2000 as the backend db (can't be too many Jeremy's with those running around). It does run fast and even boots up in under 3 minutes with around 40,000 rooms.

If you're wanting to get started with coding in Java for MUDs, save yourself a lot of pain and check out CoffeeMUD ( http://coffeemud.zimmers.net ). Bo was nice enough to all of us to write a detailed programmer's guide that can jumpstart even a java novice. Also, there is a great support group available with around 20 (of 200) active posters daily.

Tulath
Vice President
False Realities MUD
http://www.falserealities.com


11. RE: Coding a mud with Java Wed Jul 28, 2004 [4:07 AM]
guinn_uk
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Sure, if anyone else needs my flippant replies I'll be glad to help them out. I'm good with QBasic, upto 'Hello World' standard (assuming someone helps me that is).




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